Hi and thanks for the pointers, I read the guidelines, I like to stress test an ea, I push them to limits on demo, if they fail very close to the guidelines I don't dare use them on a live acct, see how I am just .01 above the recommended setting of .03 or .01 per 5000, if it will fail just .01 away from the guideline we are at it's limits, like over revving your engine, if it cant handle just a little more I dont want it, I want a lexus v8 that can rev 7000 and not bat an eye, it doesnt even care, even beyond it's design intentions if that makes sense, smooth sailing even at 140mph ...... Sorry we don't have kms here ;}