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New EA No Sleep EA With no restrictions

Discussion in 'Expert Advisor atau Robot Forex' started by oshaban, 19 Nov 2017.

  1. oshaban

    oshaban Active Member Credit Hunter

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    Good morning ...

    Anyone using EA with Currency Strength Indicators ?
    It deserve to try with higher profit targets ...
     
  2. Jpsicotrader

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    Hello everyone .. It took me almost an entire day to read all this post about this EA, and I would like to comment on the following: It seems or that some say (I have not yet tried it and I'm a little chastened with the martingales) that are giving results. These EAs by my experience always give results until it takes trend and leaves the margin without margin and enters MC. They burn it. Sooner or later that happens. There is talk of using it in cent. It is true that they are the ones that can hold these EAs, but let's be honest ... you make money with a cent account? If it's small to start, no. If it is large, then neither is the same and for that you put it micro. If you have a lot of capital, then with a little lot like it can work and haves like a piggy bank account. Only to save and keep growing the account. But for those of us who are almost here in the world, which is making money ... Well, I do not know ... I do not think it could work at all. About you, ohaban ,,,, you have taught several small accounts one of $ 500 and another one of about $ 800 if I remember correctly. And you're the first to advise minimum $ 1000 and still ... I'm not sure. And although you are right in one part about not giving a configuration, I do not know what it is difficult for you to give it. What else does it give you? That configuration works for you .. And this way it supports the firm that the EA can be, if then that configuration does not work for him, it is a matter of several factors. Spread, slip, speed etc of each broker .. But at least, you do not waste so much time searching for an optimal configuration. If one already works for one pair ... And another does not, it will cost you less to find yours, for the incidents that I have already commented on. I do not know why you close in band in not giving a set. Also referring to what you say that this EA is not to leave it in automatic constantly. If someone is looking for an EA to win, why should he be constantly looking at mt4 to see if he can disconnect it or extend the time frame? That is not automatic .. For that manual trades is done and you save unnecessary fright. The main thing in this, is to have something automatic and trust him, not wait to be scared. Of course you appreciate everything you have contributed. Some have given their comments to improve the EA. I give you the one that I believe best, so as not to have to stay all day pending .. 1- put the news filter 2- be able to choose days of the week to do operations 3- like the days, the hours that you want to be working. 4- A total shutdown of the EA when it reaches a proposed profit. If someone is satisfied with $ 20 a day ... When he does that, it goes off and does not work again, until the next day. That would avoid sleeping with floating something more quiet obtaining the necessary profits. a greeting
     
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  3. oshaban

    oshaban Active Member Credit Hunter

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    Hello Jpsicotrader ...
    Thanks for your elegant words and the way that you did to summarise your thought about the whole thread ...
    There are 2 points I would like to comment about ... Other things I think no one can give definite decision about because everyone look to the matter from his point of view ...
    Let me first to give a general reply, then talk about those 2 points ...

    - My EA is not Martingale type as you said ... Almost everyone know Investopedia website ... Let's read what they said about Martingale to have better idea from such experts and to give it at least some positive score more than what we think about the Martingale itself.
    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/06/martingale.asp

    Why I'm saying mine is not Martingale type EA?
    It is a simple answer ...
    Martingale, means that you have to lose your order first, then double or even triple your lot size in the new order that having TP and SL ... If you lose again, then you will double or triple the lot for second time and continue doing the same till you win just one trade to compensate all the previous series of losses and get out of all that cycle with a profit.
    Neither "No Sleep EA", nor "Grid-Averager-PRO EA" are working the Martingale way ...

    So, please let us remove from our minds the bad reputation of the martingale that most of traders thought about it ... but let us look for what is the exact idea of the No Sleep EA (the same is for Grid-Averager, as it is a clone of No Sleep but works in 2 directions with more controls) ...

    No Sleep is classified as An "Averaging Down" strategy ... Completely different new concept than what all thought or say.
    You may read about it in this link ... https://www.thebalance.com/averaging-down-good-idea-or-foolish-risk-3140535

    If you concentrate on the point mentioned in the above link, it's about if averaging down is a good or bad idea, the answer was not definite "Yes" or "No" ... It depends on how much you have faith in the share (currency in our case) ... What I'm doing in my trading, I use Currency Strength to have that faith and believe to get that big success in my trades because I'm trading with the most stronger direction to make the answer for averaging down is really good for me.

    This is my pure opinion about Average and Martingale trading styles ...
    They are very profitable if you use them the right way ... Risky if you don't know how they works in deep ... You need to accept loss from time to time ... This loss could be rare if you have enough experience to handle bad situations and accept to close manually on loss whenever you see things are changed and nothing is going to be in the way you like.
    So, if you can't do this, I advise you to not take the risk from the first place.
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    The 2 main points that I would like to talk about them are,
    - Why I don't like to give ready tailored settings ...
    - Why I didn't add News filter and other filters like trading days filters and so ...

    - I don't like to give any settings because of many reasons that many times I said during replying on this issue and also do you think after reading my opinion about the averaging trading that it is wise to give setting to anyone that he didn't know the principles of it? This will be a crime. I really want all to get involved to taste the sweetness of designing your settings that you did by your own. You cant do that perfectly if you didn't understand and learn the logic behind it. I don't like to see anyone lose his account by giving him a weapon that he don't know how to use. So, no way to either chose the learning way to be on solid base or better to save your time and money. There is no third way.

    - About adding the News filter and other filters ...
    I never worked on such idea. I could make this later once I got more free time to commit to it as I'm super busy about my dream project that I work on it since years ago. Ten months ago, I did spine surgical operation because of setting an average of 14 hours a day at my desk doing forex. Now, I'm in the final step in my DREAM EA. It is an EA that everyone can use it. Have SL, no Grid, Averaging, Martingale, safe, Not broker sensitive, High profit, ... Check my blog and you will know about it ...

    Anyway, When I posted "No Sleep" EA, the aim was helping others to give good EA, but I asked everyone to read everything in the thread and to do your own tests till you find the settings you believe to work for you. I'm in real shortage of time. I really can't commit to spend time on adding those filters because they need a lot of tests but at the same time I didn't say, I will not do them. I know, it is not easy for me because I know what plans I could have in the near future. Specially when I posted "No Sleep", I was not thinking that the thread will be bigger and I could involve in such responsibility to follow it and give from time to time some new versions due to some members suggestions or ideas I feel will make it work better.

    At the end, thanks to soehoe to give me the space to post my EA. It really brought good traffic I need to my blog , enhanced my forex job as a full trader, marketer and account manager (sometimes).

    For this reason, as a thank you to all good members, I would like to announce that next update for "Grid-Averager-PRO" EA will be without restrictions, the same as "No Sleep" EA. This is really "Thank" from heart to "soehoe" and to the good members who make this thread getting bigger and brought real traffic to my blog.

    Jpsicotrader,
    Thanks again for your positive comments, interest and reading all the posts.

    Good luck to all ...
    Sincerely yours,
    O. Shaban
     
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  4. co_boi

    co_boi Member Credit Hunter

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    Hi O. Shaban
    the grid avenger version 2 still has period of time or not? or you were saying that the next version will be free and unlimited?
    just to make sure we are the same page about this
    thanks alot for your EAs and your support for using your EAs
     
  5. blackking

    blackking Active Member Credit Hunter

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    Very valuable thread, seems here so many expert trader that also as expert to create ea with various system and strategy
    martingale is extreme strategy that need tight setup management, because also depending with amount capital
     
  6. oshaban

    oshaban Active Member Credit Hunter

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    The current version (v2) is having expiry date. You can use it till few days before that day.
    Few days before the expiry day, I will post the non-expiry one.
    So, don't worry about the expiration date.
     
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  7. Jpsicotrader

    Jpsicotrader Member Credit Hunter

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    Hola otra vez oshaban. Gracias por responder y hacerlo de esta manera, documentando algunos detalles, aunque no es demasiado, no era la intención lo que estaba buscando.
    Bueno, dices que tu EA no es martingala, pero eso es solo porque el EA no cierra la posición perdedora ... como la gran mayoría del EA del mismo tipo ... ¿Pero cuál es la diferencia? No veo ninguna, es más ... no está cerrando las pérdidas, implica más riesgo, porque la siguiente entrada que dobla o triplica la anterior, requiere más margen y esto se suma al que ya ha sido utilizado por la primera o segunda operación que todavía está activa y negativa. Dicho eso, la esencia del sistema es la misma.

    Sobre el enlace promedio, y lo que dices que usas, deberías verificar qué tan confiable es ese indicador, de modo que la inversión esté en esa divisa, promediando, si es efectiva o no. Y tenga una garantía de éxito ...

    Para mí, con mi experiencia en forex y las estrategias que he seguido, en manual, hay dos cosas; cuando se abre una operación, es porque ha estudiado la ventaja estadística de esa estrategia, patrón o cualquier otra cosa, para lo cual se ha llevado a cabo ese intercambio, ... si alcanza el punto que toca la SL, es posible volvemos a hacer otra operación, ya que el precio ha cambiado y no siempre estará a nuestro favor en el primer momento, y si esta segunda vez, no sale, es porque el empleador falla, y tenemos que analizar de nuevo . Si, por otro lado, se abre otro en la misma dirección, es que no estás enfrentando que has cometido un error y se agrega otro. Si esta vez es correcto, no es porque el sistema haya funcionado. Es porque ha tenido suerte ...

    Acerca de dar o aconsejar la configuración o una configuración correcta, para aprender, no se ha resuelto. Entiendo su punto de vista pero no comparto la opinión. Aunque, como él dice, no le gusta que nadie pierda su cuenta, él debería ayudar en eso, porque más de uno lo perderá, porque no funcionará con una configuración correcta, ya que ves, (como también te digo y no me has dado una respuesta al respecto) que pones como muestra una cuenta pequeña y estándar de solo $ 500 y obtiene ganancias, pero aconseja un mínimo de $ 100 y ciento. Algo que veo contradictorio.

    También estoy muy contento de que esté trabajando en otro gran proyecto, y que le está yendo bien en su intervención quirúrgica.

    Sobre los otros filtros, téngalos en cuenta, cuando pueda y pueda, fue solo un reflejo y creo que es algo importante para automatizar mejor lo que es una EA, no estoy de acuerdo con eso de estar siempre al tanto del mercado. o el EA ... No tendría sentido llamarlo EA, si tiene que hacer cierres manuales y ser consciente de ello. Solo entiendo que soy consciente de casos como este tipo de estrategia, que necesitan cambiar el TF en el que se mueve para evitar tener más riesgos frente a eventos o desconectarse directamente. El resto debería funcionar solo. Ese es el concepto de EA (automatice cualquier estrategia) Y con los filtros que comentan, noticias, horarios, días y ganancias diarias, es muy positivo.

    Y nuevamente, muchas gracias por tomar la decisión de ofrecer la última versión de EA Grid-Averager-PRO sin restricciones.
    Es un detalle y dice mucho sobre ti.
     
  8. anangsunarko45

    anangsunarko45 New Member

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    [QUOTE = "oshaban, post: 188198, member: 6247"] Grid-Averager-PRO EA sekarang trading dengan resiko lebih kecil ...

    Halo pedagang ...
    Saya menambahkan opsi "Use Bar Open Price" di versi 2.0 ... Jadi, EA akan membuka sedikit perdagangan khususnya di lonjakan berita dan harga.
    Pilihan ini diaktifkan secara default.

    Sisa Filter bekerja sempurna ...
    Harap diingat bahwa pada periode keluar dari waktu perdagangan filter EA akan melanjutkan perdagangan normal sampai menutup semua pesanan.

    EA dilampirkan di bawah ini. Berakhir pada: 13-04-2018.

    Tantangan di atas dibuka sampai 3 hari ke depan. Mari kita lihat siapa orang yang beruntung.

    Semoga kalian semua yang terbaik ... [/ QUOTE]
    tea kasih gan.......... test dulu ya?
     
  9. oshaban

    oshaban Active Member Credit Hunter

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    Oh, my friend ... Long email with no common language (English) ...
    Translating it means many things will not understood well.
    I will do my best to reply in the first chance in short to not make things missed between the lines.
     
  10. Jpsicotrader

    Jpsicotrader Member Credit Hunter

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    [QUOTE = "oshaban, post: 194721, member: 6247"] Oh, amigo ... Largo correo electrónico sin idioma común (inglés) ...
    Traducir significa que muchas cosas no se entenderán bien.
    Haré todo lo posible para responder en la primera oportunidad, en resumen, para no hacer que las cosas se pierdan entre líneas. [/ QUOTE]


    Excuse me, it has not been translated correctly ... I'll put it back
    Hello again, they were. Thank you for responding and doing it when documenting some details, that was not the intention you were looking for.

    Well, you say that your EA is not martingale, but that's only because the EA does not close the losing position ... like the vast majority of EAs of the same type ... But what is the difference? I do not see any, it's more ... it does not close the losses, it implies more risk, because the next entry that doubles or triples the previous one, requires more margin and this adds to the one that has already been used by the first or second operation that still It is active and negative. That said, the essence of the system is the same.

    About the link that you averaged and what you say you use, you should check how reliable that indicator is, so that the negotiation takes place in that pair, averaging whether it is effective or not. And have a guarantee and a successful success rate ...

    For me, with my experience in forex and the strategies that I have followed, in manual, there are two things; when an operation is opened, it is because it has studied the statistical advantage of that strategy, pattern or any other thing, for which this exchange has been carried out, ... if it reaches the point that the SL touches, it is possible to return to do another operation, since the price has changed and will not always be in our favor at the first moment, and if this second time does not come out, it is because the employer fails, and we have to analyze again. If, on the other hand, another one opens in the same direction, it is that it is not facing that it has made an error and another one is added. If this time is correct, it is not because the system has worked. It's because he's been lucky ..

    About giving or advising the configuration or a correct configuration, to learn, has not been resolved. I understand your point of view but I do not share the opinion. Although, as he says, he does not like that nobody loses his account, he should help in that, because more than one will lose it, because it will not work with a correct configuration, since you see, (as I also tell you and you have not given me an answer to that) that you put as a sample a small and standard account of only $ 500 and get a profit, but advise a minimum of $ 100 and a hundred. Something that I see contradictory.

    I am also very happy that he is working on another great project, and that he is doing well in his surgical intervention.

    About the other filters, keep them in mind, when you can and can, it was only a reflection and I think it is something important to better automate what an EA is, I do not agree with being always aware of the market. or the EA ... It would not make sense to call it EA, if you have to do manual closings and be aware of it. I only understand that I am aware of cases like this type of strategy, that they need to change the TF in which they move to avoid having more risks in front of events or disconnecting directly. The rest should work alone. That is the concept of EA (automate any strategy) And with the filters that comment, news, schedules, days and daily gains, it is very positive.

    And again, thank you very much for making the decision to offer the latest version of EA Grid-Averager-PRO without restrictions.
    Es un detalle y dice mucho sobre ti.
     
  11. oshaban

    oshaban Active Member Credit Hunter

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    Reply inside the quote itself in blue for easier and faster reply :)
     
  12. Yousef Shaheen

    Yousef Shaheen New Member Credit Hunter

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    Hi Hugo1967
    These are my settings
    Please consider your balance too as I changed my settings multiple times depending on my balance
    This works for me at the moment but my account is over 10k
    So using the same settings for a small account could end up in MC
    Try on demo first and see how you go
     

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  13. Jpsicotrader

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    Hello, can someone or want to try this set? It's for No sleep v3.
    I have tried several dates, such as 2015/2016/2017 and it has given me good results, but a lot of DD.
    Normally I have been doing it in M1, but on some dates it was not going well at all, it burns the quick count, but when changing to H1, it left intact ,,,,
    If someone at the same time, you can find a set, in which the behavior of M1, even if the date changes, behaves well, we would have a standard configuration, more or less solid.


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    Here is an example, on this date only works in H1, same configuration different date, the best M1 ...
     

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  14. PierreY

    PierreY New Member

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    Hello,

    Thank you for your answer Oshaban, I am currently doing a lot of testing to find the settings that suit me best!

    But I have a question: How do you open the same software for several times (Example: XM) on the same session.
    As for your screen on the first page of this forum (your first post)

    cordially

    Pierre
     
  15. oshaban

    oshaban Active Member Credit Hunter

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    Hello Pierre ...
    Your question is not clear ... You may be want to ask why I have same lot size for several times in series! ...
    Would you please tell again using same image I posted in my first post.
    To make things more clear, I will post that image here again :)

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Jpsicotrader

    Jpsicotrader Member Credit Hunter

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    Something about my post? Has anyone used the file that you attach? Oshaban, can you comment because for a date in M1 it can be beneficial and in another very bad one, with the same configuration?
     
  17. oshaban

    oshaban Active Member Credit Hunter

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    I didn't understand exactly. If you mean about results on back-tester ... I don't believe at all in back-testing. Even 99.9% can't convince me. Forward testing is the only way to judge about any trading robot, from my point of view.
     
  18. Jpsicotrader

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    Sé que no cree en la prueba Atrás, pero fue esa pregunta específica. Acerca de por qué la misma configuración puede fallar en la misma TF pero en diferentes fechas.

    I can not get down 50% of DD even in H1
     
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  19. Jpsicotrader

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    [ATTACH = completo] 39924 [/ ATTACH]

    [ATTACH = completo] 39925 [/ ATTACH]

    No importa cómo lo pongas, la curva es espectacular, pero cuando hay una tendencia fuerte y rápida, la cuenta se perderá de un día para otro. Con solo 0.06 lotes de máximo ...
     

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  20. oshaban

    oshaban Active Member Credit Hunter

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    Can you write in English (the common language), please ...
    Translating to English is not perfect.

    How you wait for an answer from someone who is not believing in BT !.

    Think about the following ...
    When you change the test to an other start time ... You actually choose an other set of bars ...
    You could start next time with Buy order or even Sell order but you completely change the data you feed to the
    BT simulator ... How about the characteristics of that period under test ... Trendy, Direction is Up or Down, or side way ...
    For sure results will be different for many reasons ...
     

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